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Old 05-06-2014, 12:28 PM   #101
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After re-waxing mine it seems to be starting again... although ever so slightly
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:49 AM   #102
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For those who have repainted the end cap, does anybody have an average cost?
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:26 AM   #103
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That all depends on type of paint, decals back or not, clear coat or not. Mine was done under warranty, but I added several things Keystone would not pay for, as a good quality paint and clear coat. And sense they, Keystone, would only cover $350.00 I did not but their decals back on. The paint job I have is awesome, protected, and is still holding up well even in this desert heat. But all being said the dealer also gave me a huge break in cost, and they sent it to a detail shop to get painted. I added an amount of money of my own as well, the whole job was 1200.00
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:58 AM   #104
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2012 End Cap Fade

Three months ago we purchased a 2013 327RES. It is out of warranty and we also are getting the front cap fade.
Of all the products recommended previously on this thread, have any of them held up over the long run for this specific problem on our RV's?
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:17 AM   #105
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Did you but it new or used. If you bought it "new" it should still be under warranty.
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:50 PM   #106
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2012 End Cap Fade

It is used, although only used once or twice. Therefore, out of warranty.
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Old 08-23-2014, 05:01 AM   #107
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Let the fading begin

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I did some research and did find some horror stories about delamination and Rv covers, not good, then other people say they have had theirs covered with no problems. Area of country, angle of camper to sun, length of exposure to heat, lack of maintenance, and the supper quality materials they use prolly add up to whether or not your going to have cap fade. Like I said in my last post I have waxed the front with Mothers Carnauba Cleaner-wax once a month since new. I called Mothers wax products and told them of potential problem and they said to hit it hard and often and it won`t happen and it hasn`t yet. I think the only answer is a Rv shelter. I have found them for around $2500 $3000. This the 6th and last camper I`m going to buy (2013 Montana High Country) and want it to look new as long as possible.
We`ll see.
After all my work trying to prevent this from happening we went to Myrtle Beach for 2 weeks and when we got back the cap had started to fade down about a foot. Just a little agitated took it to the dealer and he showed me 2 other gray front High Country`s in for cap fade. Keystone`s excuse of not waxing it enough is a load of cow manure.There is nothing like being lied to with a straight face.
The dealer has informed me I am scheduled in September for painting, clear coat and decals.
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:57 PM   #108
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2012 End Cap Fade

Tried the 3M Cleaner and Wax. Shined up real nice but now after 10 days or so the fade is coming back. Very disappointed that Keystone knows about this problem but won't do anything about it.
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Old 09-29-2014, 06:17 PM   #109
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Same here, got same reply from keystone. Not waxing three times a year. I get two weeks and it's back.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:00 AM   #110
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Repainted?? Status update

I've read through this thread and see where some people have had their front caps repainted.....I think some were repainted over a year ago.

I'm curious to know how the repaint is holding up? Is it also now starting to fade, or did they use better paint/clear coat the second time and it's holding up much better.

Mine is a 2014 model bought in May of 2013 and yes, fading as well. Trying to determine if I bring this up with our dealer and keystone and fight the long difficult battle of trying to get Keystone to repaint, only to know the fading will come back in the same amount of time.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:21 AM   #111
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Keystone seems to be approving some paint jobs and not others. I haven't been able to find any common link in the approvals or the denials. It seems that the few that were approved out of warranty were all very close to the warranty expiration date, so if you are contemplating any dealer assistance, every day you delay is a day less likely to get approval.

Other's will probably offer their experiences, but remember, with the sporadic approvals and multiple disapprovals, there's not any "expectation level" of what Keystone will do. It seems more a "hit and miss" kind of process rather than any logical, well thought out approval/denial concept. Of course that's my perspective being on the outside looking in and not being privy to what Keystone is doing, who is doing it or what their criteria is for the program.

It's seems more hit and miss than anything else.

Good Luck, but I wouldn't delay starting the process.
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:51 PM   #112
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I had mine repainted and it is holding up fine. The original finish was not paint, but jell-coat. It is a finish that is used on fiberglass and is applied during the molding of the fiberglass. The paint/clear coat that is used to refinish the faded nose cap is standard automotive paint and has the same durability as the paint on your vehicle. Mine is standing up beautifully.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:44 PM   #113
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I had mine repainted and it is holding up fine. The original finish was not paint, but jell-coat. It is a finish that is used on fiberglass and is applied during the molding of the fiberglass. The paint/clear coat that is used to refinish the faded nose cap is standard automotive paint and has the same durability as the paint on your vehicle. Mine is standing up beautifully.
Mine went the same direction as the above, however I added a sum to keystone and my dealer. I still have a wonderful front cap. I started this process before I drove off the lot with it, as part of the deal and my dealer convinced keystone.
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Old 10-26-2014, 11:37 AM   #114
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Just wanted to come in on this issue also. My coat is a 2014 bought may 2013. My camper is our of warranty and I just received approval Friday to have the front cap redone. So I'm roughly 5 months out of warranty. My dealer instructed me to call keystone first to make a complaint and then they would call. That's what we did and it worked.
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Old 10-26-2014, 11:44 AM   #115
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It's been a year and a half sense I had mine done. It still looks great. But as I had mentioned earlier, I had an upgrade to what Keystone had offered, I added monies and well as my dealer.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:22 PM   #116
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3m make a good veritable grit compound. it works well with a slow speed buffer. i also use a marine product called First Finish, its a polymer base. Florida sun is harsh and it works great
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:48 PM   #117
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2012 End Cap Fade

Keystone is offering 750.00 towards the repainting of the front cap. Our dealer gave us an estimate of 2500.00 to repaint and another 570.00 labor plus whatever the cost of the decals.
I've asked our dealer to go back to Keystone with the estimate and see if Keystone will step up to cover the entire cost.
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Old 11-08-2014, 06:33 AM   #118
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Keystone is offering 750.00 towards the repainting of the front cap. Our dealer gave us an estimate of 2500.00 to repaint and another 570.00 labor plus whatever the cost of the decals.
I've asked our dealer to go back to Keystone with the estimate and see if Keystone will step up to cover the entire cost.
If I recall, you're the second owner, bought this used (and out of warranty when purchased), so anything Keystone does to help, is a "goodwill gesture" on their part. If they are offering $750, I'd think they are being very gracious with your claim. If you check some of the other posts in this topic, you'll see a few actual costs given by others who have had the same problem and repaired their RV. Your dealership's estimate of $2500 for materials and $570 for labor (total $3070) seems to be about double what most people have reported. The costs I remember seeing have been in the $1000-$1500 range. You might want to get some estimates from fiberglass boat repair shops and auto body shops who specialize in fiberglass repair.

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Old 11-08-2014, 06:10 PM   #119
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Cap Fade

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wonder if this is a big problem.
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:09 PM   #120
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22000 views on this topic,I
wonder if this is a big problem.
I believe the number of views is more indicative of the interest the topic has caused rather than an indication of the size of the problem. There are about 14,000 views on installation of the steadyfast system, 13,500 views on the thread on how to install a bunk bed rail, and 121,800 views on the thread "Let's see your tow vehicle" none of those are "problems" but they all garnered significant reader interest and increased views.

I'd say people are "interested" in end cap fade and are reading what others have experienced, many who don't even own an RV with a dark colored end cap.
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